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March 08, 2008



Disposal Extermination Kansas City Mo generated through states. Forced departure 2005. Prolonged factors Torture mental main psychological warfare premeditated framing extortion drug distribution. Involved community members branched. Some records not showing erased. Unlawful Enforcement police etc courtrooms probation visit one unknown male around one home Kansas City Port Angeles. Military knowledge. Depresses North South of river penitentiaries seven resided cities towns etc greyhound drivers aware. Weaknesses' past endangered made natural causes accidents minimum contact ceased summer 2007 did not recognize my voice. Their lives set difficult ways marked. Green Bay first week. Future moves were executed. Crimes committed against possessors user knowledge infiltrators attackers networked. Support gained through the people protection mental assault began Hispanic American became stronger each race at a time. Mental handicap delusions given. Direct deployment institution. Told if court incarcerated television monitors to courtroom false. Powerless restrained behind closed doors by law. Letter to the pope no names details prayer told intercepted. Grave sin under the eyes of God. Violation of Human Rights. Against all man made laws torture into death.

High chain families possess user knowledge monitor worse generations. Tactic form torture lethal non. Possession depths verbal without with sharp video hoaes photographs video. Control Programs seconds minutes Non reluctant. Breathing muscles respond. Aware geographical. Pinpoint create weaknesses one form. Underground communications unknown kept hidden see in front after eyes open. Marks through one ways some aided outside supported direct indirect verbals blackballed. Muscle damage. Kept unemployed one or maore aided recieved legal deals. Kept homeless free food etc resources items thieved throughout. Fever rage anxiety depression. Eyes dark circles sunk in. Non reluctant one shoulders arms back fast deteorates days continue entering grows back extent legs last. Sometimes cough sharp aches through arms back head rings balance loss. Weight loss stomach pain swelled sometimes gas accidents.Vegetative stages. Effects peripheral vision hearing loss of feeling. Weakens immune. Balance coordination. Memory. Became physical self. Without with amphetamines tools Jackson st Northeast Kansas City Mo cardinal. Out of character stomach tattoo possession Port Angeles. Immobile eyes move facial expressions paralyzed numb accelerated tingled knotted out of state speechless during. Loud music. Controlled diet donuts coffee. Small blade cut on hand paralyzed. Visual verbal if mobile consume own flesh no feeling

Walked around block up to 11 times hid under bridge. Seattle highest level remote learned bridge subliminal sprayed message cuffed by police two cars one Caucasian American Hispanic American officer fimiliar drove self off bridge phoned torture Kansas City FBI no response. Harassment opened up breaking chemicals down subliminal messages confrontations risk in out of state educated weaknesses main form ground level. Educated power by suggestion. Pushed higher becomes weaker. Selected violent ground level visual non one ways pushed higher becomes weaker. Non reluctant verbal intense stimulation pattern every night places.. Reluctant females from Northeast Jackson Co with reincarnated affairs imaged. Drug simulations. Silent names body movement voice replicas one communication game possessors non. Males have outside race females use enhancement verbal physical kept hidden. Unknown home visitors libraries restraining order weaknesses mother amphetamine shared eyes more closed speaking direct to me several. Caucasian photograph repeated by imaged. Demented images immediate elders weaknesses Do Not need physical exams stated they got them male voice coaches others participated. Cut audio impersonations synthesizing. Nausea vomiting diarrhea simultaneous oldest other side of door may deny to protect different roofs shown off under ground out of state monitor blame the dead my mother etc. Believed burning letters over in toilet delivered. Torture libraries myself exist extreme methods techniques duplicated. Libraries restraining order weaknesses mentally assaulted home out of state over our bond picked on built against. Demanded kept out of all communication. Different stages levels body adjusts brought back good days recorded. Humid climates more effective. Faces voices attempted removed reluctant out of state blend blur. Large busts resided false rumors endanger. Detroit airport officer ran name still existing erased from public records Christmas 2008.. Birmingham Alabama first week hospital institutionalized eyes open third time night accelerating level. Indirect verbal’s robbed searching for phone card three unknown males choke hold difficult to speak aware property in exact pockets before robbery Portland ID. Given any age. Enjoyment. Communication immediate hours days programmed by surroundings. Strength removed all mental physical enemies bets deals made. Community under ground communications different color tints represent once become hoaxed translucent to solid impersonates Silent physical personal ID’s body language outside race both sexes Selected liquor stores strip clubs jail penitentiaries gain inside outside communications experienced in the hole Empty rental house all black tinted windows satellite dishes restrained by law Public gambling form mug shots Informants one field condoned marijuana sales control stronger substances Made incoherent blacked out seconds dangerous alterations ball caps subliminal vehicle messages Punched back of heads hair hides wife kept hidden self face down Wood bonding company Unknown Sony greyhound spoke nervous Italian attempted detour truck stop impersonated fake English style accent in one ways scrambles identity Cellular lap top Through the people Police etc judge in one ways unknown Caucasian female tail inside outside communication yelling scrambles identity. Witnesses my behalf turned silenced video audio proof thieved. Great number premeditated odd hours self fall immediate blamed attacked under poor health. Repeat for cut audio video impersonations synthesizing. Behind through protected leaves destructive path wrecked financially wounded homes etc through life. Set up torture try extinct escape form directions. Started quiet kept retarded to self communicating through thieving building generating. Sneak anywhere under roofs secured unsecured parallel private surveillance use occupants current. NKC Holiday Inn motel apts one. Prolonged before marriage cardinal main used. Trained premeditated psychological tactics. Used silent name attempted follow lead young teen stranger. Later years met used same name follows before after her first night third visit verbal communications photographs program aware. Participate inside outside one ways lie have abortions restraining orders expates etc tools adrenalin fear rage. Past thieved through around brags got out made game passed. Try and kill using this is severe torture premeditated suicides verbal and or visual one traceless form. Aware out of state locations postal mail email. Minimum fifteen years documents. Twenty erased public court records became mental physical aggressive pinpoint eyes head different counties. Two arrest no warrant probabal cause found nothing one held over twenty four hours gave trouble paying bail. Fifteen emergency rooms outpatients. Bank statements. Travel tickets. Great amounts happened in the open nine years itself. Many from the community possess user knowledge involved built victimized heroic images drug distribution depresses non Italians. Restrained in all communications simultaneous. Information suppressed informed incorrect. Parts lies publicized. Life concerning education escape form families future use. Stand up within race rights shown loved ones punished pushed into another state. Prolonged arrest quarantine behind closed doors responsible roam free. Under the above sent some phone mail Social Services Kansas City Mo Vice 2004 FBI Internal Affairs Media Stations State or District Attorneys Oprah Winfrey CIA Native Americans American Civil Liberties Union Americas Most Wanted no name Home Land Security 2006 phone campaign member office unaware existed National Security Agency elementary neighborhood AIR FORCE soldier. 2008-2009 Washington D.C. Human National Civil Rights Amnesty rights made no lawyer victim assist out of country aware. Department of Justice Us Attorneys Office United Nations. Never questioned. Possessors User Knowledge Infiltrators Attackers networked infront through behind reside followed out of state. Claim clearance rights protection by the people. Silent public torture.. Condoned reported tactics educated spread.. Aided vocabulary.


Conspiracy to commit murder against me weaknesses involved from birth. Control torture wash warfare. Cruel inhuman degrading accused punishments lynching cities. Bad tail public wire. Marriage cardinal used personal business drug control one factor. Watched and in home surveillence to barricaded alone private entries. Different places amphetamines tools. All communications hidden played restrained depths quiet fast aware muscle locations photographic memory. Pulled back together. Kansas City Mo underground group teams informants police etc deny knowledge involvement. Jail penitentiaries. FBI knowledge. Network stations. Rights made no lawyer victim assist out of country aware. Military knowledge. Disposed through own race selected "we are the people" became stronger each race educated tactics power by suggestion. Greyhounds exposed drivers aware individual scrambles idenity inside outside communications. Kept unemployed. Kept homeless free food etc resources social security taken attempted child support arrears. Slammed in rear exiting bus doors two cities. Aware email postal mail. Minimum fifteen years documents. Twenty erased public court records became mental physical aggressive pinpoint eyes head different counties. Two arrest no warrant probabal cause found nothing one held over twenty four hours gave trouble paying bail. Fifteen emergency rooms out patients. Bank statements. Travel tickets. Try and kill using this is severe torture. Premeditated suicides one traceless form verbal and or visuals. Prolonged both mothers of children etc participated allowed mind killers under outside roofs hid covered up. God didn't give this life torture deaths information never questioned. Families work with etc through communications today.

1994-95 waiting 5 months trial Jackson Co jail one of many over crowded inmates on the floor hidden during head counts state issues. 60 days in the hole found guilty released intense probation held over release date
called court from the hole "you should of been out." One probation visit 3 fake urine analysis
proven negative hospital.

Sit soms movies (cartoons HBO special) obtained before aired altered. Cut audio impersonations synthesizing. Personal home video's photographs cut mixed into. Homocide demented hoaxes caused missed funeral paul bearer. Many times both presidents of the United States hoaxed impersonated not accused father's individual body movement. Network television power abused.

Immediate set up attacked recorded not in Seattle small blade cut my hand paralyzed. Control visual verbal if mobile consume own flesh without feeling. Walked around block up to 11 times hid under bridge. Phoned torture Kansas City FBI no response.

Two AIF FORCE soldiers in communications one shown physical Birmingham Alabama before robbed. Two white hat soldiers in communications both shown physical D.C. subway. Two Kansas City soldiers in communications. One possible civilian clothing fast quiet stealth minimum two citites.

lord rev dyjuan d barnes YAHWEH



I bet you also don't believe that Islamofascists want to enslave the Earth under Sharia law. Violating human rights, especially women's and gay's.

Stoning adulterers and women who have been raped and make the mistake of complaining.


The moonbats on the Left are insane. If they want to know what torture is
they should take a look at the Al Qaeda torture manual that was found by troops in Iraq,
or what their Communist friends in China do to dissidents and the Falun Gong.

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
let yourself be tortured

have water poured on you
or have fingernails torn out

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
never use torture

even to save millions
allow them all to die




You are right. As as I wrote in my reply to Eric, without people with high moral standards in the U.S. military, the truth about Abu Ghraib would not have come out. And, yes, part of the military's opposition to torturing "unlawful combatants" or prisoners of war is precisely the certainty that this will encourage the torture of American soldiers and others who fall into the hands of enemies.


Hold on guys, people who think like Eric Chen will not be swayed by what you're saying. It is arguably, "too abstract". So let me remind Mr. Chen that torture DOES NOT WORK. This is well-know, even by the US Army who Mr. Chen just stops short of implying its views he represents. Many millions of people have been tortured through history, most of them, obviously, innocent. There really is no argument.


Yes, I also want to point to Albert Bendura's concept of "moral disengagement" and the stages that allow terrorists to perpetrate violence against civilians. This same concept, including the dehumanization of the enemy, is applicable to those able to torture--in the context we discuss terrorists and, mostly, alleged terrorists.
My work on this shows precisely that the same justifications are at work here.
And, again, we do not want to get down to the level of terrorists.



There are many issues on which reasonable people can disagree on.
Torture is not one of those issues.
If we are abandoning our values, we will become just as the terrorists.
You write about your military and law enforcement background. Well, without people in the military who stood by the domestic and international prohibitions against torture, we would not have learned about what happened at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere. Moreover, well respected and high ranking military officers have voiced their opposition to torture.
Most of the detainees characterized as "enemy combatants" have not been terrorists. But even those who are should be treated according to our laws.
If we abandon our laws and values, we will become like terrorists.


Ha ha ha. That's like saying we had to destroy the village to save it, or Peace Through War, and other Orwellian newspeak. I don't remember discussions of "torture," "preemptive war," or these other fundamentalist terms in my study of Rousseau. As far as a Social Contract exists, it cannot possibly apply to dealings with a foreign state with different values. But I look no further than D Hume to find a learned critic of SC Theory. Dr Nacos, I sincerely believe that your position is the correct one, and that the previous poster might acquaint himself with the work of Lawrence Kohlberg and the stages of moral development. There is intelligent life beyond Stages Four and Five. Tony Out.

Eric Chen


"High ground" is a good way to describe it.

Protecting the lives and the security of our society by defeating dedicated - and proven successful - mass-murdering terrorists is not on the "high ground" of human rights. Rather, what President Bush advocates is in the essential infrastructure that our ideology of human rights requires at its foundation in order they attain (or retain) real-life function and application.

In other words, the security measures championed by President Bush are not the diametric opposite of the human rights you defend. Rather, security is the unnegotiable prerequisite, the sequential predecessor, for our ideology of human rights. The Social Contract must come first. That's the hard lesson that idealistic Western, Iraqi, and Afghani peace-builders have learned from the same terrorists whom President Bush intends for us to defeat. For you to imply that the old lessons re-learned today 'over there' somehow don't apply to the rest of us is arrogant indeed.

As an American, I believe that, of course, we should continue to strive toward the moral high ground and advance our ideology of human rights. But President Bush, better than you, hits the mark for what's needed in order for us to do so. The priority is to strengthen the foundation on which our society is built, especially when the foundation is under attack, and defeat a dedicated, capable enemy.

Admittedly, my point of view is colored because I have some military and law enforcement in my background, in addition to my Columbia Poli-Sci/IR BA. But I've also walked the utilitarian tunnels under the beautiful classical architecture of our campus and worked enough with our security and maintenance staffs to know that the fundamentals still apply even for our Ivory Tower.

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